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Pkay
Ink's Still Wet on My License!
Username: Pkay

Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 7:12 pm:   

I have recently received my 03 FFL for C&R purchases. In addtion, I applied for and received a Certificate of Eligibility (COE) from the state of CA which waives the ten (10) day wait when purchasing a C&R firearm. What this means is that C&R firearms can be shipped directly to the address on my license eliminating the need for a transfer dealer.

However, in response to inquiries this morning on my part to my CA DOJ point of contact, he informs me that the shipment of C&R purchases to the address of record on my 03 FFL applies only to long guns, not handguns. He states that C&R handgun purchases must be through an 01 FFL acting as a transfer dealer per federal law. The ten (10) day wait is still waived for C&R handgun purchases though. I have not been able to verify this restriction in my reading of the federal law provided by BATF in the C&R Handbook.

Do you guys have a take on this matter? I certainly don't want to do anything illegal or something that would jeopardize my license. Your assistance would be most helpful. (BTW, this is a great board!)
Safe shooting - PKAY
Sydwaiz
Ink's Still Wet on My License!
Username: Sydwaiz

Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, January 27, 2003 - 8:46 pm:   

I just spoke with the DOJ this morning about the very same subject. I was told that the COE is only for C&R handguns and to waive the 10 day wait. Long guns(C&R) do not require a 01 FFL as long as you have your 03 FFL.
Pkay
Ink's Still Wet on My License!
Username: Pkay

Post Number: 2
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 12:31 pm:   

I understand the C&R handgun and 10 day wait elimination for same with the COE. But where in federal BATF regs or law does it state that the 03 FFL holder is prohibited from having C&R handguns shipped to the address of record on his license. I could see the state of CA prohibiting such a shipment destination if the licensee didn't also have a valid CA COE. But with a COE there appears to be no distinction made between C&R long guns and C&R handguns except by CA DOJ. However, DOJ states the distinction is a federal one, not CA law. If so, where is it so stated?
Safe shooting - PKAY
Galahad
Ink's Still Wet on My License!
Username: Galahad

Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2004
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2004 - 1:57 am:   

Somebody made a mistake. California law has, for all practical purposes, (maybe all purposes) eliminated handguns from C&R status. For C&R handguns you are exempt from the "One Per 30-Days" law, the 10 day wait if you also have a COE, and if I recall correctly, you don't have to have an HSC and go through the safety demonstration. But you can't accept shipment of one directly, you have to go through a FFL-01 dealer. OTOH, it's so complicated that I could be wrong. I'd suggest that you call CA DOJ again and make sure that they understood your question.

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